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When feminists disagree: censorship versus solidarity

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CensorshipFeminism clearly entails a multi-perspective, multi-faceted way of thinking about equality and rights, so what happens when feminists violently disagree with each other? Erin Stewart investigates protests, disinvitations and the exclusion of feminists in debates and wonders what implications this will have on solidarity and feminism as activism.

11 June 2011

Bettina Arndt is an evolutionary psychologist and sex therapist based in Australia. She says that the sexual desires of men and women are generally disparate and that the presence of testosterone in male bodies leads them to be “grovelling for sex”’ and for them to be “irresistibly drawn to photos of naked women”.

At this point she suggests that men and women need to learn to compromise in their negotiations of sex. She suggests that women, who tend to have “fragile libidos” might be better off to “just do it”, to have sex to help their male partners function happily in life, and create a relationship where sex isn’t simply “dolled out like Meaty Bites to a dog”.

Unsurprisingly, Arndt’s views and resorts to gender stereotyping are considered problematic to some feminists, to the point that her recent public lecture at the Australian National University (ANU) was met with protest by the ANU Women’s Collective, who said that Arndt’s views were “damaging to young people and her attitudes should not be invited or heralded at the ANU”. Through the use of Facebook and a peaceful protest just prior to the event, the collective spread their view of Arndt’s inappropriateness.

Interestingly, Arndt is identified as being a ‘feminist’ author and is quoted in the Canberra Times as characterising herself as a ‘card-carrying feminist’. While her current work is far removed from issues with rape and consent (both of which are obviously important considerations when talking about sex), during her early career, she has attended to such matters.

Yet, the issue of censoring people from speaking at public events or wanting to exclude them from conversations because they have controversial views is hardly unique to this situation, nor among women who self-identify as feminists.

At the Feminist Futures Conference held in Melbourne on 28 and 29 May this year, there was much controversy and discomfort surrounding who should or should not speak, and what views should or should not be represented.

The main controversies emerged surrounding feminists considered to be anti-trans* as well as disparate opinions on the sex industry in relation to women, empowerment and violence.

Radical feminist, author and academic Sheila Jeffreys was initially on a plenary panel, along with Kathleen Maltzhan of Project Respect (an organisation that takes the radical feminist view that sex work is violence to all women) and planned to run a workshop called ‘Why Prostitution is Violence to Women’.

After feminist sex worker rights advocates along with trans and sex/gender diverse activists complained about the imbalance of speakers on the panels, representatives from Australian national sex workers’ association Scarlet Alliance and sex/gender diverse collective Still Fierce Melbourne were also given places on two of the panels.

Jeffreys then withdrew from the conference, arguing that she felt it was “untenable” to participate, and around 60 radical feminists, many of whom were aligned with Jeffreys’ views, held an alternative – or as they put it – “real” feminist conference at a nearby venue.

Jeffreys experienced a great deal of condemnation for she feels that supporting ‘transgenderism’ entails a support in the gender-system, which she does not agree with. She also suggests that surgery to change the bodies of transgendered people is often pre-emptive, a strategy to hide homosexuality and culminates into the forced sterilisation of young people.

Of course, such a view is contested, particularly by some who do identify as trans*and do not feel as though they have been manipulated, violated or mutilated through surgery. They condemn Jeffreys for victimising and discriminating against trans* people.

During the final panel of the conference, sex worker rights advocates stood up and turned their backs when Maltzhan from Project Respect spoke, holding up signs that said, ‘Kathleen Maltzhan supports laws that harm sex workers’.

Heated discussions took place online before the conference and during this final panel, in which ‘silencing’ was claimed by the different parties.

One effect of debates surrounding censorship and the conference was Melinda Tankhard Reist’s disinvitation from the conference.  Tankhard Reist is a founder of Collective Shout and actively campaigns against the objectification of women, the sexualisation of girls and violence against women more generally. She also identifies as a ‘pro-life feminist’ regarding abortion (clearly a very controversial view to have as a feminist).

She emphasises the harms of the pornography industry as well as the work of advertisers who use and proliferate images of scantily clad women for commercial gain. After being disinvited from the Feminist Futures Conference, Tankhard Reist told The Scavenger: “I will continue to work with those who truly value diversity, inclusiveness and solidarity in advancing the cause of women and girls.”

Discussions around who is a ‘real’ feminist have been raging for decades. Controversial writer and academic Camille Paglia has come under fire from those who accuse her of holding ‘anti-feminist’ views, and at an event held last year in the US, Naomi Wolf Talks With Feminism’s New Young Leaders, Jessica Valenti decided to pull out of the event as a protest towards the views of another panellist, Allison Kasic who is affiliated with the organisation, The Independent Women’s Forum which holds that (amongst other things) showings of The Vagina Monologues should be halted as it glorifies promiscuity and that HPV immunisations would lead to promiscuity in young girls.

Valenti felt that Kasic’s views were regressive and ‘right-wing’ and that she had ‘appropriated’ the label of ‘feminism’. “If those who work actively against women’s interests can claim feminism as their own, the movement will become meaningless,” she wrote.

At a certain point this is obviously true. For instance, someone who holds that women should have to do domestic chores all day and not have a choice to do anything else and that all women are stupid obviously could not use the word ‘feminism’ to represent their views and allowing them to talk at feminist events would be both wrong and absurd.

However, debates between feminists tend to be much more subtle than this and drawing the line can be quite complicated.

So, when is it okay to censor the views of people who identify as feminists, who do seem to genuinely want to further the cause of equality and who try to do so publicly and as honestly they can muster (even if other feminists find them problematic)?

The thing with feminism is that there is no one feminism. There are so many views on how to best achieve equality and even what equality what might entail. This is not to say that each view is right, but it would seem that the purpose of feminist conferences and talks, of public lectures and of having a diversity of different views represented is to have these debates, to understand different perspectives, to draw out the things that are wrong and the things that are important about each other’s views.

It’s about trying to get at an inclusive conversation about the experiences of people in relation to both oppression and empowerment.

Thus, it is important to hear from the empowered sex worker who loves her job as much as it also is important to hear from women who feel they were forced into sexual activities they were not completely at ease with. Both sides of the coin are equally important because both sides of the coin represent what life is like for women. And it’s important to note here that no one experience or narrative is less important than any other.

Looking at the bigger picture of activism and gaining opportunities and rights for women, equality does not depend on a small group of people deciding for themselves what equality entails.

As nice an intellectual exercise that may be, the goal should be one of bringing about the conditions under which equality could exist or be furthered in the real world. In this case, feminists and other activists need to engage with dissidents. This is because people generally (not just small groups of them) are required in order to enact change as well. Without discussions and inclusiveness, the discourse is caught in abstraction.

While it might be frustrating for someone to engage with people she completely disagrees with on a fundamental level, it becomes a necessity to enact change. And on the way it is possible that to learn something from those in opposition to them or reach some level of common ground.

Strangely though, sometimes it seems that some people forget that feminists people like Tankhard Reist, Jeffreys, Ardnt, and Kasic, who are figures of contention, do have good intentions.

In my opinion, it is not their purpose to oppress anyone or to incite evil into the world. They are honestly and genuinely trying to make the lives of others better and therefore deserve to be engaged with for those reasons alone.

That and because feminism should not involve trying to silence women, to disparage them or to dismiss them.

Erin Stewart is associate editor at the Scavenger.

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written by Erin Stewart, 20 June 2011
Sorry Clare. The official stance of the Womens Collective was unclear to me, I should have contacted someone for the official stance. I take issue with some of the things Arndt has said myself and my goal was not to attack your position, but rather to present it as being part of a wider tendency to stop people from trying to talk, which even if you didn't intend to do, some people certainly were intending to stop Arndt from speaking (as the facebook link attests) on feminist grounds. Sorry for that, and thank-you for commenting in order to clear up that mistake.
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written by Amazon Mancrusher, 16 June 2011
I think the REAL Feminist Futures conference was a great success. This event was organised in less than a week with no budget. We actually got more like 80 - 90 women who attended one part of the conference or another, and a few more who were hanging around outside quite a bit (we tried to be welcoming but didn't want to pressure anyone to come inside. I did a lot of the work towards it and was very pleased with the outcome. The room had a maximum capacity of 50, I was expecting maybe 20 - 30, and the room was packed, over capacity for much of our conference. Also, it is not only quantity, but quality that matters, and in my opinion we had some great discussion and presenters. It was a women only space, the energy was great, feedback indicates that it was safe for women who identify as survivors of prostitution. The feedback overall has been very positive and we have several women who were not connected to feminist communities who now are. Radical feminists were more than happy with what we achieved smilies/smiley.gif

I would also like to point out that Sheila had a lot of women advising her not to speak, and the reasons were, firstly because she had always said that she was not up for sharing a platform with someone very anti rad fem, but also because of the level of hatred and harassment directed towards her and other radical feminists. Many rad fems didn't feel safe to go to the conf and decided it would be best to organise our own thing, positively and pro actively, and I think that was the right decision.

Cheers smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Clare, 16 June 2011
I'd just like to correct your facts for a moment. Firstly the ANU Women's Collective was protesting Bettina Arndt's approach to dealing with mismatched libidos...not her right to speak. I think you'll find the comment about her views not being heralded at the ANU was made by one individual on the groups Facebook page but the Collective itself was not of this opinion. There was a peaceful protest before the lecture and the protests spoke to Arndt about their objections. The article that you referenced was extremely poorly researched. The ANU Women's Collective was happy for her to speak but wanted to make their opinion clear. This whole protest has been misrepresented and misinterpreted as an attack on free speech.

I would also emphasise that though Arndt proclaims herself a feminist she has criticised the Prime Minister for being unmarried, argues that women should say yes to sex even if they don't want to have sex and has even called it a 'wifely duty'. I think if you actually read a little of the stuff on her website you'd understand why many object to her.

This article is just one of the ones that I've come across and been disgusted by. Not to mention some of the stuff she says on her website.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/opinion/editorial/general/women-need-to-say-yes-to-sex/1447294.aspx

While I agree with your point that feminism should not be about silencing other women, I would also say that firstly this was not the intention of the protest at ANU that you mentioned, and secondly equally women should not be silenced by this rule of not silencing others. If the protest at ANU did not happen then those women would not have been allowed to have their say about Arndt's views.
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written by Erin Stewart, 15 June 2011
I really like the comments that this post has gotten so far, thanks for them. I think this is really difficult terrain and as a young feminist myself who hasn't had any experience in the sex work industry, I find it really hard for me to articulate my own position on this issue. I don't feel I can say that one person's experience is any more or less salient or valid than another, even (or especially) where these experiences seem to be fundementally contradictory. In my head though, I think that radical feminism and lib feminism and whatever other views that are out there are reconcilable on the basis that members of said groups want equality.

I completely agree with you, Jackie, in saying that featuring one big name feminist shouldn't come at the cost of recognising and listening to different voices. The key to me is trying not to marginalise feminists who offer different perspectives because I believe that is perverse to the cause in the first place. Again though, this is so complicated and as 'profeminist' rightly points out, it is possible to call yourself a feminist and have your views cross a line. Where that line is though, I'm not sure, particularly where people are obviously trying to genuinely engage with others and do not intend to hurt others.
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written by Jackie, 14 June 2011
In an ideal world I'd like your piece. Having watched and participated in the 'discussion' on the Melbourne Feminist Futures wall that was conveniently wiped, erasing all the hateful things that radical feminists said to anyone who defended sex work, I beg to disagree.

It is clear to me that when people attack so vehemently and vindictively, they are not working towards a shared understanding in the future. They think they're right, but they're so THREATENED by differing opinions, they use every nasty tactic in the book to shame and shut down dissenting voices.

Why is Sheila Jeffreys so scared of appearing on a panel with pro-sex work feminists or pro-transgender feminists? She has more books published than any of the suggested speakers. She has more experience speaking. She has had more years espousing her theories. Why is a raggedy little bunch of disparate voices (who I commend for SUPPORTING each other) so threatening? Newsflash: If you're not doing the wrong thing, there's no need to feel threatened.

Jeffreys' disavowal of the Melbourne Feminist Futures Conference, and her continued hostility demonstrated by putting forward her 'alternate' view as the 'real' one, tells me all I need to know. Her perspective is wrong, as it has always seemed to me on the inside from the moment, as a fledgeling feminist, that I first encountered her work. Let her have her cronies, and their 60 women conference. Her feminist organising experience should ensure she knows exactly what such paltry numbers won't be able to achieve alone.

Let the rest of us revel in Jeffreys' absence, and be delighted for the presence of those additional speakers that the conference wouldn't have otherwise had. Let us work together towards finding something worth agreeing on for all feminists.
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written by profeminist, 12 June 2011
I couldn't disagree more. Requiring that all contrary viewpoints get equal floor time is fine for a debate club but not for anyone that wants to actually get something done. Letting in people who fundamentally disagree on base premises guarantees that the conversation will simply rehash and argue, at great cost, those same base premises, over and over, with nothing to show for it at the end except exhaustion.

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